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D R A F T

NAFTA Questions -Combined Answers

 

I                     EDUCATION:

A       What percentage practicing surveyors have a four-year college degree in surveying?

40% / New 100 – existing 50% - Canada

80% of the practicing surveyors have a four year college degree - Mexico

At the present time, only about 5%. A larger percentage, approximately 20%, have degrees in civil engineering, forestry, geology, and other related fields. - USA

B        How many states/provinces have colleges that offer four-year degrees in surveying?

4 - Canada

In the Mexican Republic there are 7 states that offer a four year degree in surveying. - Mexico

Approximately 25 of the 50 states and 5 territories have colleges offering four year degrees. Of those, 15 are accredited. - USA

C       What is the central accrediting body for surveying degrees?

Canadian Council of Land Surveyors (CCLS) – Canada

The central accrediting body for surveying is: La Dirección General de Profesiones, dependencia de la Secretaria de Educación Pública (SEP). - Mexico

The Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology (ABET). - USA

D      Are all four-year degrees accredited by this body?

Yes - Canada

Yes, all four year degrees are accredited by this body. - Mexico

All are accredited when they have been in place for at least three years and meet the requirements. There are three commissions within ABET: engineering accreditation (EAC), related accreditation (RAC), and technology accreditation (TAC). In order to meet the education requirements in most jurisdictions, the program must be either EAC or RAC accredited. - USA

E       What percentage of practicing surveyors has a higher college degree than a four-year college degree?

5% - Canada

Less than 2% of practicing surveyors have a higher degree than a four year degree - Mexico

Less than one percent (1%). - USA

F        What is the education level of the practicing surveyor that has less than a four-year college degree?

Grade 13 Plus (in most cases each provincial association curriculum establishes an education level equivalent or nearly so to a 4 year college degree). - Canada

A certificate is required, that is given after completing ( ) units beyond the level of high school degree - Mexico

A high school education is the lowest level. Approximately 15% of practitioners have an Associate Degree (AA) or equivalent. This is usually a two year degree program. - USA

G      How many states/provinces have colleges that offer a college degree that is less than four years?

All provinces have community colleges that offer a diploma in surveying. In some cases a diploma from a recognized college will be given credits towards a university degree. - Canada

Only 6 states have a college that offers a degree in less than four years. - Mexico

Currently 35 or higher. Programs are being added at all times. - USA

H       Other comments:

In addition to obtaining a degree in geomatics (surveying) from an accredited university each provincial association sets professional exams that, together with an articling period (1-2 years), must be passed in order to achieve a professional status and a right to practice. – Canada

In Mexico professional engineering degrees offered by the universities are:

Topographer “ surveyor”

Topographer and Geodesist Engineer

Topographer and Hydraulic Engineer

Topographer and Hydrographic Engineer

Topographer and Hydrologist Engineer

Topographer and photogrametrist Engineer - Mexico

Many states are currently in the process of adding a surveying or geomatics degree to their universities. Many states are also in the process of adding an education requirement to their qualifications for licensure. It is expected that a very high percentage will require education within the next 10 years. - USA

 

II                  LICENSING:

A       Are all practitioners required to have a license to offer surveying services to the public

Yes, but for legal (cadastral) surveying only. - Canada

Yes. - Mexico

Yes. - USA

1        If no, what is the ratio of licensed practitioners to non-licensed practitioners?

2        What is the penalty for practicing without a license?

Penalties may vary province to province - Canada

There are both civil and criminal sentences. The criminal sanctions are: Fines and/or incarceration, the civil sanctions include lawsuits instituted by clients who receive services from unlicensed individuals. - Mexico

The penalty varies among the 55 individual licensing jurisdictions. Commonly, illegal practice is a gross misdemeanor and subject to a fine in the range of $5,000 to $15,000 and an order to cease and desist such practice. In some cases, persons are prosecuted through the court system. - USA

B        Is there more than one type of surveying license?

No. - Canada

Yes. See answer question H, part I .- Mexico

No. - USA

C       What kinds of surveying can be practiced without a license?

Topographic, photogrammetric, hydrographic, geodetic, seismographic, mining, construction layout, and engineering. - Canada

In some jurisdictions, only topographic surveys and studies for construction of homes and buildings - Mexico

In some jurisdictions, engineering (construction) and topographic surveys can be performed by those not licensed as surveyors. In most cases, those performing such surveys must be licensed engineers. - USA

D      What agency issues the license to practice surveying?

Provincial associations and the Association of Canada Land Surveyors (ACLS) – Canada

Dirección General de Profesiones and each state Direccion de Profesiones del Estado. – Mexico

Each individual state or territory has a licensing board. The board is typically a part of the administrative branch of government and is composed of practicing surveyors, engineers, and often public members. In some jurisdictions, the boards regulate only surveyors; most often they regulate both engineers and surveyors, and in some, many technical professions are governed by one board. - USA

E       Describe the process for obtaining a surveying license, including mandatory education and experience, if any.

Graduation from a four year degree program from an accredited university followed by a 1 to 2 year articling period, then writing the applicable provincial association professional exams. Total period from beginning to receiving license is 5 to 6 years. The difference in time for the period of articling is governed by the amount of qualified practical experience a student has prior to entering university plus the experience gained between semesters. - Canada

The applicable education must be completed and then the appropriate cumulative exam must be taken and passed at the school attended. - Mexico

The qualifications for licensing varies among the 55 jurisdictions. A combination of education, experience, and examination is required. Generally the requirement is four years of education or equivalent, four years experience, and approximately 16 hours of examination. (The examinations are described in Part II, Section N.) - USA

F        What geographic boundaries are associated with the license?

Provincial and Territorial (Yukon, Northwest Territories require a license as a Canada Lands Surveyor) boundaries. – Canada

Mexican Republic; the license is valid throughout México, but you are required to register your license with each state that you are practicing in.- Mexico

The jurisdiction boundaries of the state or territory. - USA

G      What is the national organization for standardizing the licensing process?

None, the practice and ethics factor is influenced by the CCLS Standards, however, the provincial associations have the ultimate power. - Canada

La Dirección General de Profesiones – Mexico

The National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying (NCEES) which has their offices in Clemson, South Carolina. - USA

H       Describe the process for obtaining a license in an additional state/province.

There is, for the most part, a standardization of the course curriculums between the accredited universities that has helped establish reciprocity between the provinces. There is a Western Board, Atlantic Board, and the provinces of Ontario and Quebec each having their own examining boards. If a licensed surveyor wishes to obtain a license in another jurisdiction he/she must obtain a level of academic standing for that jurisdiction which may call for the sitting of one or more examination papers in order to reach that standing. Once he/she has obtained that standing he/she can write the professional exams for that jurisdiction. – Canada

See answer to question F, part II. - Mexico

Again, it varies slightly among the jurisdictions. In nearly all, an applicant must submit an application complete with verification of education, references, and work history. Proof of citizenship or of the right to work within the US is often required. The home jurisdiction verifies to the host board the validity of the license and method of licensing (exam, etc.). If the qualifications are found to be comparable to the host board’s jurisdiction, one must successfully complete a state specific exam and then a license is issued by the host board. Very few jurisdictions require residency or citizenship as a qualification for licensure. - USA

I          Is there a license available that authorizes the practice of surveying for the entire nation?

No. A Canada Lands Surveyor license only licenses a surveyor to practice on what is known as Canada Lands, Indian reserves, Federal harbours, Airports and the Territories. - Canada

As mentioned previously the license itself is recognized nationally, it is only required that it be registered in each state where the individual will be practicing. - Mexico

There is no national license. It has been a topic of long discussion, but is not likely to become reality in the near future. - USA

J          Are there temporary licenses issued for the practice of surveying?

No. - Canada

None - Mexico

Only a few jurisdictions issue temporary licenses. When issued, they are typically for a limited time, e.g. 90 days, or for the duration of one project. - USA

K       Can a license be obtained by ‘grandfathering’? (Experience only, no education or examination required).

No, not for legal or cadastral surveying. - Canada

None. - Mexico

While some jurisdictions can allow ‘grandfathering’ under their statutes, it rarely occurs. A person would have to have achieved eminence in the profession in order to qualify. Very long active and outstanding successful practice would be required. - USA

L        Are there education requirements for maintaining the license? (i.e., ‘continuing education’)?

Yes, peer competency review, voluntary and in some cases mandatory continuing education. - Canada

At the present time, no. - Mexico

Many jurisdictions now have continuing education requirements. Although the requirements vary among the jurisdictions, the model is 15 contact hours of education per year. A few jurisdictions preapprove courses and activities; most do not. - USA

M      If your state requires a degree as a prerequisite to obtaining a license, is there an alternative route to enable a prospective licensee to achieve the same academic standing as a degree, to qualify for a license?

Yes, in some cases. In British Columbia for example you can register with the association as a survey student, write a series of exams set by the Western Canadian Board of Examiners (this is a very onerous task) and once you have completed these exams the Board will issue you a Certificate of Completion (the same certificate that a university graduate will receive) that will give you eligibility to article and write the professional exams. There may be slightly different scenarios in other provinces. - Canada

No - Mexico

Many jurisdictions allow a long period of experience to be substituted for education. There is a trend toward requiring a baccalaureate degree as a (absolute) requirement for licensure. As an example, a degree is required in New Mexico - USA

N      Once a prospective licensee has obtained an academic standing, that is, a degree or equivalent standing, is there a set of professional exams that must be passed in order to get a license?

Yes, however these professional exams may vary from province to province. - Canada

- Mexico

Two examinations are required in all jurisdictions. The first eight hours is on the fundamentals of surveying and is given at the end of the education phase, or after four years experience. A six hour exam on the Principles and Practice of Surveying is given at the end of the required experience phase of qualifications. The Model Law adopted by the National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying (NCEES) calls for a four year degree, the Fundamentals exam, and four years experience which is followed by the Principles and Practice exam. In addition, each jurisdiction gives a state specific exam on local laws and regulations which varies from two to eight hours.

All but two jurisdictions, California and Washington, use the national exams developed by NCEES. These two jurisdictions currently develop their own exams, but are moving toward using the national exam. - USA

O      Is there an articling program?

Yes. However, a person holding a license from another province or one of the northern territories (i.e.: Yukon or Northwest Territories) may, in certain cases, write the professional exams of his/her new province without serving articles. Any exemption will depend somewhat on the experience of the person. - Canada

No - Mexico

No. There is a requirement that at least two years experience (four years of experience “acceptable to the Board” is required by many jurisdictions) must be under the direction of a licensed surveyor. A reference from the supervising surveyor(s) must be provided. - USA

P        Can a licensee from the other NAFTA nations acquire a license without going through all of the process that an unlicensed person would go through to become licensed? If yes, will this license be a temporary license or a permanent license.

Not at this time. If under a NAFTA agreement, the university accreditation program is extended to include more universities then those graduates could apply for a certificate of completion that would give them the right to write the professional examinations for the province in which they wish to practice. Alternatively they could apply to the Board of Examiners for an assessment of their academic standing and by passing examinations in subjects that they are missing, they would then get a certificate of completion. They would also serve a term of articles. - Canada

At the present time, no. - Mexico

Each jurisdiction will have to decide how to handle these requests on a case by case basis. If education, experience and examination are similar to the requirements of the jurisdiction, it is likely that a candidate would be licensed as if by comity or reciprocity. The license would likely be normal license, usually granted for a two year period which can be renewed by payment of a renewal fee. - USA

 

 

III               PRACTICE:

A       What organization represents the surveyor in:

1        Private practice?

The provincial association or the ACLS in all three categories. Usually only those practitioners in private practice will require to hold professional liability insurance. - Canada

At the National level – FECITEUM. At the State and Municipal level - Colegio de Ingenieros Topografos. - Mexico

At the state and local level,, it is the state surveyors associations, which may have also have local organizations that are part of the state organizations, that represent the Surveying Profession. As an example, the Texas Society of Professional Surveyors, with its local chapters, is the professional organization in Texas representing the Surveyor in professional and legislative issues.

The National Society of Professional Surveyors (NSPS) and the American Congress on Surveying and Mapping (ACSM) are the national organizations representing the professional interest of the surveyor. NSPS is a member organization of ACSM. State organizations are affiliated with ACSM and NSPS but are not directly part of ACSM and NSPS. - USA

2        Government?

Same as above (Part III, Section A, Part 1) - Canada

Same as above (Part III, Section A, Part 1) - Mexico

Same as above (Part III, Section A, Part 1) - USA

3        Academia?

Same as above (Part III, Section A, Part 1) - Canada

Same as above (Part III, Section A, Part 1) - Mexico

Same as above (Part III, Section A, Part 1) - USA

B        Is membership in a surveying organization required in order to practice surveying? If yes what is the name of that organization?

Yes. Every surveyor in each province and territory must belong to either a provincial association in order to practice in a given province or the Association of Canada Lands Surveyors in order to practice in the territories or other Canada (Federal) lands. - Canada

It is not necessary to belong to an organization in order to practice surveying, but it is necessary to have the certificate issued by the Dirección General de Profesiones. - Mexico

Membership is not required in any organization at any level to practice surveying. Being licensed by the licensing board in one of the 55 different jurisdictions is required for practice in a particular jurisdiction. - USA

C       What penalties are surveyors subjected to for:

1        Practicing without a license?

A Civil fine - Canada

A civil fine, lawsuit, or incarceration. - Mexico

See Part I, Section A, #2. By definition, surveyors must be licensed to provide services or offer services to the public (“practice”) in all jurisdictions. Unlicensed practice is against the law (from a practical point of view, the effectiveness of prosecuting unlicensed persons will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction – see Part II, Section A, #2). - USA

2        Making an erroneous survey?

These would be damages awarded to a person who suffered as a result of the erroneous survey. Action taken by the governing association against the surveyor. If the practice persists then the license can be removed. – Canada

License revoked for 6 months. - Mexico

The penalty will vary among the different jurisdictions and could be from nothing to revocation of license, which will depend if a complaint has been filed with the proper authorities. It is normally considered a violation of either the particular states’ ‘Minimum Standards for Surveying’ or the ‘Rules for Professional Conduct’. The penalty is most often based on a determination of gross negligence, misconduct, or professional incompetence and can be administrative or civil. - USA

D      Is there an accepted code of ethics for practicing surveyors? If yes, how is a violator of the code disciplined?

Yes. All provincial associations have a discipline committee that review complaints including a breach of the code of ethics. If a surveyor is guilty of a violation then action will be taken by the association against that surveyor. – Canada

Yes. The violator submits himself to the Council of Honor and Justice of the Board of Engineers. The violator is sanctioned according to his offense. - Mexico

 

Each jurisdiction has either a ‘Code of Ethics’, ‘Standards of Responsibility’, or ‘Rules of Professional Conduct’. The state board determines the degree of the violation and institutes appropriate disciplinary action which can be reprimand, suspension, or revocation of the certificate of registration. In addition, ACSM has it own code, known as the “Canon of Ethics.”

Surveyors brought up on ethical misconduct charges can be disciplined by the state board in the jurisdiction in which they are practicing. Recently NCEES developed a course in ethics that can be used by state board as part of their disciplinary process. - USA

E       Do surveyors carry professional liability insurance? If yes, is it mandatory?

Yes and Yes. - Canada

No - Mexico

Some Surveyors and Surveying firms may carry Errors and Omissions (Liability) Insurance. It is not mandatory except for specific projects that require it. - USA

F        Is there a practice review or audit program? (i.e., peer review)?

Some provinces (3) have practice review and the others are at varying stages of considering practice review or are in the stage of implementation. - Canada

In some cases, usually government projects or very expensive private projects. - Mexico

In some jurisdictions, submitting a work product to professional peer review is part of disciplinary proceedings. Also mandatory continuing education is required in more than half of jurisdictions (see Part II, Section L). - USA

G      Is there a state or federal body that governs the land surveying profession and sets standards and regulations, administers the licensing program and administers discipline?

In Canada each provincial association and the ACLS is a self-governing body that governs the land surveying profession in that province or territory and sets standards and regulations and administers the licensing program as well as discipline. - Canada

 

The registration board in each jurisdiction performs these functions. NCEES (see Part II, Section G) while setup to provide for a standardized testing series, also serves as the body promoting standardized statutes, regulations, and model laws from a national perspective. - USA

H       What organization is authorized to prepare an agreement facilitating the cross border trade in surveying services, commonly referred to as the Mutual Recognition Document, (MRD)?

CCLS - Canada

FECITEUM - Mexico

NSPS has received a letter from the US Trade Office, recognizing that organization as having the right to negotiate the MRD on behalf of the Surveying Profession for the United States. NSPS is coordinating its efforts with NCEES - USA

I          Are civil engineers allowed to perform any of the services that are normally provided by surveyors? Explain.

Civil engineers are allowed to perform all these services normally provided by land surveyors except any of those services of a legal survey or cadastral nature. - Canada

According to what the law stipulates, no. - Mexico

In some jurisdictions, engineering (construction) and topographic surveys can be performed by those not licensed as surveyors. In most cases, those performing such surveys must be licensed engineers working on their own projects. (See Part II, Section C)

In addition, geodetic and hydrographic surveys are performed by government organizations that employ people who, while possibly trained as surveyors or engineers, are not required to be licensed to carry out their work functions. - USA

J          Explain the means by which land title is transferred from government ownership to private ownership.

Either by a simple conveyance or by Crown grants or Land Patents. There are numerous other ways depending on what level of government is involved. - Canada

By Presidential Declaration/Presidential Agreement, by grant deed. - Mexico

The type of transfers depended on the time and location of the land. The European Sovereigns made grants of land to individuals who might subdivide the grant further(as example, Spanish and English land grants). These grants have been recognized by the courts and the as being valid transfers of property. Federal patents are the legal means by which the federal government grants lands from federal ownership to private ownership. - USA

1        How long has this process been in effect?

This process has been in effect for many years and goes back hundreds of years depending on location. For example modern history goes back about 500 years in Newfoundland but less than 200 years in British Columbia. - Canada

Since the inception of the Mexican republic. - Mexico

Since the end of the sixteenth century when people from European countries began to emigrate to North America - USA

2        How is property described in the documents?

Property is described usually by a simple deed description that would usually list a lot number, plan number, block, district lot, or district, for example. - Canada

Legal Description , i.e. plot plan. - Mexico

The early grants were vague and many of them have subsequently caused problems in providing quiet title for landowners acquiring land in these grants. Once the public land survey system was established, many of the patents made reference to aliquot parts of a section of land:NE ¼ of Section 10, Township 3 North, Range 11 East, New Mexico Principal Meridian. - USA

3        What property rights are conveyed?

Usually the fee simple is transferred, never the absolute fee, which rests with the federal or provincial governments. - Canada

Full ownership.- Mexico

Any right or interests possessed by the sovereign - USA

K       Are there rights or privileges that are retained by the government?

Usually the government will retain the right to minerals, beds of bodies of water, the right of expropriation, and the reversion to the government or Crown for non-payment of taxes. - Canada

Eminent Domain - Mexico

Mineral, water, and other rights or privileges maybe retained by the government - USA


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